tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post4485124561092604531..comments2024-02-13T14:28:21.282-05:00Comments on New Jovian Thunderbolt: Wiki HoleNew Jovian Thunderbolthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09452246769246304612noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post-81264802081827843432013-02-24T16:48:13.715-05:002013-02-24T16:48:13.715-05:00Good thing that I know where to get Legal Flechett...Good thing that I know where to get Legal Flechette Rounds in 12 Gauge that feed through Semi-Auto Shotguns like Saigas.<br /><br />But the range still sucks, and the Dispersement Pattern is Huge.Bubblehead Les.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00730873284089958084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post-61091865073909947202013-02-24T16:34:23.667-05:002013-02-24T16:34:23.667-05:00Yep, that IS a rat hole and a half... And the '...Yep, that IS a rat hole and a half... And the 'games' that have been played are amazing...Old NFOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404197287935017147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post-70166740626737141062013-02-24T12:41:30.558-05:002013-02-24T12:41:30.558-05:00We could also have had the British .280 sometime a...We could also have had the British .280 sometime around 1950. They actually adopted and optically sighted select fire bullpup to fire it. If your WIKI-wander didn't get there, look up the EM-2<br /><br />The plan was to agree on a standard cartridge, and if possible, a standard rifle to fire it, but the US Army would not accept anything less than a .30, hence the 7.62 NATO.<br /><br />The British ended up going with the FAL because the EM-2 wouldn't scale up successfully to 7.62. (Forgotten Weapons has a video of one being fired. The compromise was supposed to be that NATO adopt the FAL, including the US Army. That got reneged on as well.<br /><br />The Brits are still angry over that, since after having forced the adoption of the 7.62 round, they unilaterally went with 5.56mm, based on research from project SALVO and other Korean war studies. Exactly the same arguments the Brits made in 1947, but the US rejected.<br /><br />We could have had the equivalent of the 6.8 SPC back in 1950.<br /><br />The brits are still angry <br /><br />Paulnoreply@blogger.com