tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post8456948972289857739..comments2024-02-13T14:28:21.282-05:00Comments on New Jovian Thunderbolt: RacismNew Jovian Thunderbolthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09452246769246304612noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post-87196368064659280392010-11-12T15:25:22.258-05:002010-11-12T15:25:22.258-05:00http://olegvolk.livejournal.com/914802.htmlhttp://olegvolk.livejournal.com/914802.htmlNew Jovian Thunderbolthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09452246769246304612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post-81990099939938079502010-10-26T12:01:10.354-04:002010-10-26T12:01:10.354-04:00Racists can buy guns in this country. As for the j...Racists can buy guns in this country. As for the jerk selling the Turner Diaries ... sometimes gunnies and libertarians are too damned tolerant.<br /><br />We don't tolerate anti-gun bigots at gun shows ... we should consider not tolerating any bigots. The people peddling that trash should be asked to peddle it elsewhere.<br /><br />The first amendment ends at the private property line.Kristophrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08370888276707569365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post-81255589597624127952010-10-22T08:05:53.260-04:002010-10-22T08:05:53.260-04:00Hey, go to a gun show and there's always one j...Hey, go to a gun show and there's always one jerkhole selling copies of <i>The Turner Diaries</i>. It seems to come with the territory.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post-51690383813116936422010-10-22T07:08:20.199-04:002010-10-22T07:08:20.199-04:00If I saved that disgusting link (of course I didn&...If I saved that disgusting link (of course I didn't) I would not propagate it here. <br /><br />Adjusting the behavior of the person that LIKED that video with social scorn is remote. And shaming them is the not the purpose of this post. They are almost surely too far gone.New Jovian Thunderbolthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09452246769246304612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post-78321712486981480342010-10-22T01:51:41.258-04:002010-10-22T01:51:41.258-04:00Nobody's asking you for specific examples, let...Nobody's <i>asking</i> you for <b>specific</b> examples, let alone actual cites. You're the only one sticking that word in there. I myself even pointed that distinction out to you here once already. Why are you doing that?<br /><br />Just give us examples sufficient to evaluate your standards for "racism" -- because, <i>as I also already said</i>, it may very well be the case that what you consider "racist" we consider merely minimal common sense.<br /><br />As to the video, how should I know? You still haven't linked to it.<br /><br />And if you're incapable of describing any other examples abstractly enough to make identification possible, then -- no, wait; y'know what? <b>FTS</b>, man; it's a load of crap. At this point, the standard response applies:<br /><br />No, NMJ, <i>I</i> don't like <i>your</i> behavior; <i>you</i> change to suit <i>my</i> personal preferences.<br /><br />Go take this up with the actual people in question first. No need to be a snitch at all; just go confront them yourself, and post <i>those</i> links. Because unless and until you do at least that much yourself, we really can't be bothered to do anything for you, either.Acksiomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post-13469130210812224592010-10-22T00:18:25.140-04:002010-10-22T00:18:25.140-04:00I am an Equal Opportunity Hater. With every piece...I am an Equal Opportunity Hater. With every piece of Hate Speech that the Commies put out in their "Code Language" of Political Correctness, I know that I have the Constitutional Right and Opportunity to Respond in an Equal and like-minded manner in direct opposition to their Marxist Ideology.<br /><br />I also have the Free Speech Rights to put down Fascists, Klansmen, Ultra-Right Talibani Loving Muslims, Dumbass Rednecks and other Uber-Conservative Witch-Burning Ignorant Fools. <br /><br />However, to Disparage anyone based on their Genetic Makeup, Age, Place of Birth, Physical Disabilites, etc. is Reprehensible and should not be tolerated, and must be called out.<br /><br />If the Left wants to keep hiding behind the Race Card to push their Marxist Agenda, let them. <br /><br />If the Klansmen want to keep playing their Race Card to push their Agenda, let them.<br /><br />But YOU have the Right to NOT Allow that Crap on Your Blog, and if anyone has a problem with it, go comment somewhere else.<br /><br />Shame that some Racist Assholes on the Right want to screw up things for the Gunnie Community, considering how the Marxist Left is about to play Hardball after the Mid-Terms, and be assured, Gun Banning will raise its Ugly Head soon.<br /><br />Of course, Hippies are the exception to the Rules. Get em!Bubblehead Les.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00730873284089958084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post-77318238941957267592010-10-21T20:32:55.052-04:002010-10-21T20:32:55.052-04:00I am not citing specific examples, even with names...I am not citing specific examples, even with names or ID redacted, because even the examples would unmistakably point back to the original source. Let me try...<br /><br />How bout a link to an online video that was wall to wall un-ironic use of the N-word, and how application of firearm swould lead to a happy, to them, result? And thinking that video was absolutely hilarious? <br /><br />There were others examples almost as bad, but too back-identifying. The video poster will never see this however and have no idea I am talking about them here.<br /><br />But is that sort of video worthy of your condemnation Ack?New Jovian Thunderbolthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09452246769246304612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post-37317542171280238052010-10-21T20:24:04.764-04:002010-10-21T20:24:04.764-04:00Sure it was. You told me, along with everybody el...Sure it was. You told me, along with everybody else, to STOP IT, along with several other petty kitchen dictator commands. That's what was directed at me, and applicable. <br /><br />Furthermore, it doesn't need to be directed at me for my comments about your own behavior to be relevant.<br /><br />And you know what else? Apparently you haven't noticed that I have been generously treating your demands of me as requests. And that *you're* the one asking ME, and others, for a *favor* here.<br /><br />Unfortunately, though, it appears that you aren't interested in actually addressing my actual points as actually made. And I've been around teh intarwebz long enough to know what that usually means: you can't come up with an argument against them, but you're not willing to do the normal, fundamentally adult thing of handling the cognitive dissonance involved by considering the possibility that they're valid and correct points, and reexamining your own behavior, propositions, and/or beliefs in that light.<br /><br />Instead, you respond with irrelevant cliches and snark. Because the CD compels you to say *something*, but you won't bring yourself to actually engage with the actual points as actually made.<br /><br />Finally, since I'm criticizing you on consistency, here's a couple of serendipitous examples of what I mean by "the girl who cried x-ism":<br /><br />http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/108337/<br /><br />and<br /><br />http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/108307/ .Acksiomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post-5635152938240356672010-10-21T19:54:07.428-04:002010-10-21T19:54:07.428-04:00Well, the post wasn't directed at you, Acksiom...Well, the post wasn't directed at you, Acksiom. Unless you've been doing some stuff you aren't proud of.New Jovian Thunderbolthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09452246769246304612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post-399381245840429142010-10-21T18:55:36.040-04:002010-10-21T18:55:36.040-04:001) Nobody said you had to use actual names. I ask...1) Nobody said you had to use actual names. I asked for examples, not cites.<br /><br />2) Derogatory speech *in general* will be bastardized, exaggerated, and used by the evil busybodies against *anybody* they oppose. So if that's your rationale for trying to tell the rest of us what to do, it doesn't really matter whether it's derogatory speech based on race, creed, culture, nose hair, or whatever. And your not only glaring but now *doubled-down* inconsistency on this argues against just taking your word for things, let alone following your OBEY ME! diktats.<br /><br />So here's my competing advice to your readers: the hell with 'em, and the hell with this guy, too -- at least until he gets righteous enough for us to care what he wants. We have better and more important things to do than trying to appease the evil busybodies. It's a fool's errand, because they're trying to bully people, and when you give bullies what they want, *they don't stop*. They just push *harder* for *more*.<br /><br />So my answer is to either ignore them, or push back, rather than just bend over and surrender -- as NJT *demands* of us.Acksiomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post-18019449551320824252010-10-21T16:20:49.482-04:002010-10-21T16:20:49.482-04:00You don't choose you race, you choose to be a ...You don't choose you race, you choose to be a stinky hippy. I see I should have closed comments on this one.<br /><br />I will not snitch, calling folks out by name. Snitches get stitches.New Jovian Thunderbolthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09452246769246304612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post-54158495886102079362010-10-21T14:20:14.992-04:002010-10-21T14:20:14.992-04:00Thank you for the advice. Unfortunately, though, ...Thank you for the advice. Unfortunately, though, you will need to provide actual examples in order to persuade people like myself, because we've already been tricked by "the girl who cried x-ism" too many times already. We have no idea what your standards for "racism" are like, so it may very well be the case that what you consider "racist" we consider merely minimal common sense.<br /><br />And your qualification about posts offending hippies being potentially exemplary tends to reinforce this view, because of how it singles out a particular group for derogation. It's grossly inconsistent with your post's call for better-considered speech.Acksiomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post-58269056424642416342010-10-21T12:06:47.058-04:002010-10-21T12:06:47.058-04:00I despise all idiots and morons equally.I despise all idiots and morons equally.bluesunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11995973825892791271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post-75110846656501224402010-10-21T11:30:16.539-04:002010-10-21T11:30:16.539-04:00I see it as the ultimate weakness in debate. A v...I see it as the ultimate weakness in debate. A variety of the AD HOMINEM argument. Much as the statists do - "Oh, yeah? Well, your a _______!" (nazi, stormtrooper, gestapo, knuckle-dragging redneck, etc.)<br />We, as responsible limited government, less spending, personally responsible gun owners need to stict to principles, e.g. nation of laws, not men, to win back this country from the Progressives.Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post-26718662022857145342010-10-21T10:30:15.096-04:002010-10-21T10:30:15.096-04:00We're better than the other poltical side. Th...We're better than the other poltical side. That's a burden we should proubly bear, and not sink to the Left's level.New Jovian Thunderbolthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09452246769246304612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post-88415448482286380692010-10-21T10:29:29.920-04:002010-10-21T10:29:29.920-04:00"Someone connected to my gunstore definitely ..."Someone connected to my gunstore definitely is."<br /><br />So is that what set off this rant?<br /><br />If not, would you mind linking to an example of what did?Arthurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09289639279717534292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post-87072071907039265262010-10-21T09:50:21.799-04:002010-10-21T09:50:21.799-04:00you know...racism goes both ways. If you're go...you know...racism goes both ways. If you're going to scold, scold everyone.bredahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00216098318849287384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3274583756441452923.post-52106643200368778712010-10-21T07:05:00.172-04:002010-10-21T07:05:00.172-04:00Good post.
I haven't noticed the same myself....Good post.<br /><br />I haven't noticed the same myself. But, then again, I don't have the time I would like to read other blogs. I also am hardly anonymous, as I always use my legal name.<br /><br />Maybe that intimidates some into being guarded with their speech, although I don't see how.James R. Rummelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04682353191833690442noreply@blogger.com