This whole "Crime in Mexico" thing has got ignoramises in the Media talking about a special kind of bullet that Drug Cartels are buying freely in the US and smuggling into Mexico. Magic Cop Killer bullets
Baloney!
It's a Magic Bullet! It hunts down blue uniforms that are covering a bullet resistant vest. The bullet then grabs the Law Enforcement Officer by the collar and slaps his face a bunch of times until said cop calls the bullet "Mommy." Satisfied the police officer is sufficiently humiliated, it then backs up a few feet and goes through the kevlar armor as though it were tissue paper and seeks out the heart. It then bits down on the aorta until the unmanned peace officer expires. Another tragedy that could have been averted if we only had more laws. Like one against murdering people.
It's Cod Swallop!
It's hype. It's a new thing and people are believing the marketing people.
The specific bullet is the FN 5.7x28 bullet. Not so special really. It's a glorified .22 Hornet or Spitfire, and that has been around since my father was young. It's just a teeny tiny rifle round being fired out of on specific FiveseveN pistol and FN's sub machine guns and pistols like this:
Here is a picture of the bullet next to the already tiny (but more effective) .223 round fired out of most US Military rifles:
There is nothing magical about the cartridge. It's just pistol size with a spitzer bullet. Spitzer, in layman's (or idiot Media) terms means 'pointy'.
Here it is again next to pistol, rifle and shotgun ammo. The misnamed Cop-Killer bullet is the blue tip one. The bullet to it's left is what I practiced with this week out of the 1911. On the far left is the famous Euro Pellet. The Wonder Nine. The 9mm that many eschew as underpowered today, but in it's heyday it was assigned magical propeties of death and destruction.
The BIGGEST brass bullet is a .300 Wincester Magnum, and the other big things are shotgun shells.
The DO make a Armor Piercing (AP) variety of the 5.7. The SS190 Duty Round. It has a hard core. But you can harden many type of Spitzer (pointy!) bullets. In WWII the famous BAR often and routinely loaded loaded with steel tipped .30-06. Now THAT would go through body armor! It's hard to get .30-06 today, if at all. It's harder to get this new Cop-Killer bullet in armor piercing variety. It is not for sale to civilians. If Mexican Drug Cartels are getting their hands on them in the US they are either buying them from crooked US cops, or stealing from same. Not from gun dealers or gun shows.
It's is Class III. IF a regular Joe like me wanted to get it I'd have to go through a huge expensive rigmarol with fingerprints and pictures and forms and waiting a coupla months. And the ATF might wonder if I was getting a bunch of em. They might keep an eye on me, see if I am making contact with known smugglers, that sort of thing.
It'd be easier to just steal them from the Secret Service armory, than to buy AP rounds.
Standard .223 ball ammo will go through everyday body armor worn by cops. It is more the velocity of the round than the composition of the bullet.
ReplyDeleteSoft body armor worn by cops was designed to protect against pistol rounds, most of which travel right around 800 to 1000 fps. A .223 round shot out of a standard M16/M4 configuration is in the 2400 fps neighborhood.
It is pretty safe to say that any centerfire rifle round will penetrate common soft body armor worn by cops.
Yes, but is this a rifle round or a trolloped up pistol round?
ReplyDeleteTrue enough, no one calls a .30-30 a cop killer round, though it can go through cop quality body armor, no sweat.
Um, AP Pistol ammo isn't available to us mere mortals. LEO ONLY.
ReplyDeleteIt's not so hard to get. Type .30-06 AP into the search field at Gunbroker. Looks like you can get a Garand clip for $12 plus shipping. Plenty available. Even belted!
ReplyDeleteIs it new production AP or surplus?
ReplyDeleteThe thing with 5.7 ammo... not a lot of it in the WWII surplus market...
Got to be surplus. I am by no means an expert. I was looking for M1 clips when I stumbled across the AP ammo.
ReplyDeleteHere's some Lake City M2 stamped for 1953 and 1954
So I am to believe that the mexican drug gangs are all armed with LEO weapons purchased in USA gun shops (or gun shows...the horror) loaded with cop killing ammo.
Perhaps they are all clad in ballistic armor themselves and I should buy up a bunch of the .30-06 to protect myself from them.
All this hysteria about the 5.7 when 7.62 Tokarev is more readily avaliable and likely more effective against soft body armor.
ReplyDeleteActually .357 SIG would probably penetrate level II and IIA vests as well.
The .45 ACP doesnt even need to penetrate armor to be effective. Its pure energy and stop punching power is enough to simultaneously stop a persons heart and blow them to the ground like a ragdoll. Instant death from a single round, anywhere in the body. Blood loss and hydromorphonic shock will kill any man even with a hit to the pinky instantly.
ReplyDeleteNo penetration required. The .45 ACP, and John Moses Browning's Model 1911 is Gods own anti sonuva bitch machine.