Weaver?

I was just discussing with Sam how the Weaver has fallen out of fashion.


So, Jeff Cooper dies, and people, except for a few holdouts, stop talking about, and mostly stop doing, the Weaver stance.  The two handed grip that brought pistol shooting out of the one-handed point shoot and bullseye dark ages.  Bladed-ish body stance, push-me pull-you grip, with a hunched over head like you were cheek welded to an invisible rifle stock.

Now folks are all square face to the target, mostly square on stance, isosceles hold, and most people do the thumbs forward crush grip with locked wrists.  More range of motion left to right that way.  More natural means faster.  And it's always been about the shooting competitions.  Though the competitions is the crucible that makes its way into training for social purposes, of course.  Both law enforcement and self-defense.  Even old Colonel Cooper would freely admit that.  Competitors innovate, then the trainers disseminate.

"Are they really ALL Isosceles, T-Bolt?"

Well not ALL.  Gunsite will still train you up with the Weaver.  But Isosceles is the new hotness.  Everything evolves.  For example, locking the elbows in Iso?  Heck even I have seen people cut back on that.  It can be exhausting to keep them locked.

"What is the Universal Shooting Stance, T-Bolt?"

Huh.  That's a new one by me.  Lemme look... Hey, Shooting Illustrated did this blog post a year and half ago.  Good thing I don't do this for a living.  Nothing on Universal there though.

It might be made up?  Good reason there is no wiki article for it.  

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Just speaking on the grips.  Thumbs forward, wrap around support hand, gun aligned with your elbow...  That seems universal.  There are other grips but the Tea Cup and Wrist Grab are sub-optimal two handed grip styles.   Has anyone even heard of a another type of two handed grip that isn't point shooting.


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