With me. Probably for all time. I will never buy an M&P. Why? When I tried them, I shot them poorly compared to other guns. This is mainly because of the HORRID trigger. I'm not alone in this assessment.
Money quote by Gunbot! "I can’t imagine Smith and Wesson selling a product with such a crappy trigger, when the fix is so simple."
I'm glad he solved a problem, but when I shop for firearms I avoid known problem guns. One of his problems was the weight of the trigger pull. That's less an issue for a non-race-gun Me, as long as it isn't too light or too firm. But the grittiness and just the feel of it. That's why, for me, S&W M&Ps are in this cubby hole, semi-permanently. I will say that I like that they don't have that little tongue of a trigger safety like you find on Glocks or XD. Never a fan of that on high round count practice sessions. Other than that, BOOOOO, Smith and Wesson.
Same with revolvers with zit trigger-locks on them. Booo. I'd buy more new revolvers from them if not for the zit. I did buy the zitted up 617, but that's merely for practice. Come to think of it, of my S&W revolvers, that's the only one where I am the first owner. Revolvers are expensive. That scares people off. Not me. But to purposely make your revolvers less nice? It's even an added expense for them. I just don't understand the thinking at the post-Clinton S&W. Who wants any of these bad features? How does it sell them more guns at less cost to them? It makes no sense.
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