Saturday, December 17, 2016
Supposed to drive
To simulator training now. Then on to MBtGE's house for lunch. I dunno, that ice is pretty thick... Maybe later.
Friday, December 16, 2016
Blackout
Saw this in the news about the North Korean Absolute Dictator that may have gone on a bender.
Citing an unidentified source, the outlet reported that last September Kim summoned the military officials after getting drunk, calling them "traitor's of the nation" for not being able to develop a military satellite.
"Not being able to develop one military satellite is the same as committing treason," Kim allegedly said during his drunken rant.
Afterward, he forced the officials to write letters of apology all night.
But when Kim woke the next morning, he was totally unaware of his outburst.
"Why are you all gathered here?" Kim said to the military officials. "All of you are old and should look after yourselves."
After hearing Kim's morning greeting, the officials allegedly cried and Kim left satisfied, believing they were touched by his kindness, the report said.
Made me think of another tyrant know for tipping a few back during breakfast. And lunch. And at Tea. And dinner... supper... nightcap...
Citing an unidentified source, the outlet reported that last November Hillary summoned Democrat officials after getting drunk, calling them "traitor's of the foundation" for not being able to drag her sorry campaign across the finish line.
"Not being able to get one universally disliked crooked failure elected is the same as committing treason," Hillary allegedly slurred during her drunken rant.
Afterward, she forced the officials to write letters of apology all night.
But when Hillary woke the next morning, she was totally unaware of his outburst.
"Why are you all gathered here?" Hillary said to the Democrats. "All of you are old and should look after yourselves." [ed. yes they are up there in years...]
After hearing Hillary's morning greeting, the officials allegedly cried and Clinton left satisfied, believing they were touched by her kindness, the report said.
They don't sell too many Glocks in Maryland now
If you are going to get a gun you have to jump through the hoops to get a MD Handgun qualification license. Forms, picture, fingerprints, training. $100-300, depending.
After doing all that you are gonna settle for a $500 gun?
According to the gunstore, those that bother go ahead and pop for something fancier. Read: more expensive. So Sig and HK are winners here in my home state.
That's not to say people have stopped buying quality $500 firearms. It's just less incentive.
After doing all that you are gonna settle for a $500 gun?
According to the gunstore, those that bother go ahead and pop for something fancier. Read: more expensive. So Sig and HK are winners here in my home state.
That's not to say people have stopped buying quality $500 firearms. It's just less incentive.
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Jacobins
Thursday, December 15, 2016
What if
What if... When I pull the trigger in what feels, to me, straight back in line with the pistol thusly:
I get this:
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But when I pull it in what feels, to me, like this:
I get more like this?
And this pushing the rounds right is some flaw in my trigger pull? And though it FEEL like I angling the squeeze, in reality, I am really not?
Update:
How are you shooting; standing up, one hand, 2 handed, or from a rest?
2 handed, square to the target, arms almost fully extended, elbows down, head upright and square to the taret
What is the range to the target in the pictured groups?
25 feet. The minimum at this range.
How many shots are you taking without a ‘rest’ in between shots?
2 or 3
Can you observe via dry fire; particularly if you have a laser or bore sight you can use ?
No laser for anything that isn't DA revolver, no.
I get this:
----
But when I pull it in what feels, to me, like this:
I get more like this?
And this pushing the rounds right is some flaw in my trigger pull? And though it FEEL like I angling the squeeze, in reality, I am really not?
Update:
How are you shooting; standing up, one hand, 2 handed, or from a rest?
2 handed, square to the target, arms almost fully extended, elbows down, head upright and square to the taret
What is the range to the target in the pictured groups?
25 feet. The minimum at this range.
How many shots are you taking without a ‘rest’ in between shots?
2 or 3
Can you observe via dry fire; particularly if you have a laser or bore sight you can use ?
No laser for anything that isn't DA revolver, no.
Wednesday, December 14, 2016
Sight picture
There are three common ways to hold that front sight on the bullseye.
Folks have gone over and over this in other fora. Including here.
#1 is 'lollipop'
#2 I've been told is Navy hold, but I am not sure the people that told are right
#3 I don't know what that is called. I've done it, but didn't like it. I was shooting low then, and was doing anything to try to fix that anticipary jerk. 'Combat' sight picture?
I think folks that aren't shooting bullseye use #2, but I don't KNOW. What do you people that can blow the center out of the target use? Do you have guns set up to use #1 and others that do #2?
Or am I the only man in Christendom not doing Combat Sight Picture?
If #3 was the best sight picture for your gun would you make adjustments to make it #2 or #1?
If the new gun is really #1, lollipop, I may have to change it.
Folks have gone over and over this in other fora. Including here.
#1 is 'lollipop'
#2 I've been told is Navy hold, but I am not sure the people that told are right
#3 I don't know what that is called. I've done it, but didn't like it. I was shooting low then, and was doing anything to try to fix that anticipary jerk. 'Combat' sight picture?
I think folks that aren't shooting bullseye use #2, but I don't KNOW. What do you people that can blow the center out of the target use? Do you have guns set up to use #1 and others that do #2?
Or am I the only man in Christendom not doing Combat Sight Picture?
If #3 was the best sight picture for your gun would you make adjustments to make it #2 or #1?
If the new gun is really #1, lollipop, I may have to change it.
Labels:
marksmanship
Tuesday, December 13, 2016
Ace Pic
I like this picture,
I got from here. But Ace got it from the NRA.
Are you folks holding that low?
But it's a good visual for showing folks how to focus on the front sight.
Lots of people, me included, are drifting away from 3 dots. For many reasons. But at least these shown are bi-colored You'd hate for it to looks like Green Green Red when the red is actually green. You are gonna slice left under pressure that way, homey.
At night C could actually look good, when the muzzle is pointing off to the east. With the red color you at least have a clue you maybe are doing something wrong. That you want A and not B, but with C... no indicator to clue you in when you are in a hurry to shoot the machete wielding prowler in the dark.
I'm a big believer is tritium sights but, also... maybe you don't take the shot when it is dark enough to need tritium sights because then it isn't dark enough to SEE to ID. Like with a flashlight? It's a big plus on the new gun for house-gun work. Having a light on there. It's my first pistol-mountable light. So, 20 rounds of 9mm AND a whole buncha lumens? Yes, please.
But the sight picture on this new gun is like this, with fiber optic strip for the green:
A bit simpler, no? It's one of Sam's influences with all the training. Darkened rear sights, one dot on the front only. Biggish gaps on either side. He wants me to focus on the front sight but not obsess over it.
I got from here. But Ace got it from the NRA.
Are you folks holding that low?
But it's a good visual for showing folks how to focus on the front sight.
Lots of people, me included, are drifting away from 3 dots. For many reasons. But at least these shown are bi-colored You'd hate for it to looks like Green Green Red when the red is actually green. You are gonna slice left under pressure that way, homey.
At night C could actually look good, when the muzzle is pointing off to the east. With the red color you at least have a clue you maybe are doing something wrong. That you want A and not B, but with C... no indicator to clue you in when you are in a hurry to shoot the machete wielding prowler in the dark.
I'm a big believer is tritium sights but, also... maybe you don't take the shot when it is dark enough to need tritium sights because then it isn't dark enough to SEE to ID. Like with a flashlight? It's a big plus on the new gun for house-gun work. Having a light on there. It's my first pistol-mountable light. So, 20 rounds of 9mm AND a whole buncha lumens? Yes, please.
But the sight picture on this new gun is like this, with fiber optic strip for the green:
A bit simpler, no? It's one of Sam's influences with all the training. Darkened rear sights, one dot on the front only. Biggish gaps on either side. He wants me to focus on the front sight but not obsess over it.
Labels:
marksmanship
Monday, December 12, 2016
Range Work
So, been shooting the new 9mm. 25 feet, 115 grain Federal. Up to 150 rounds fired. Only failure was the One magazine not locking back correctly, and round #10 stovepiped. Lubed up the gun after that and no other problem since.
Dunno how many rounds through it before I got it. At least 250. Sam tests guns and only considers them ready for sale if they can do 250 shots without a failure.
But we'll pretend for the purposes of the log book that I am at 150. This is one of the latest targets, all with similar results.
I circled in yellow one shot that tried to get away.
What do you see?
Upper right.
Heeling, milking, shooting flaw. But what do you NOT see?
Nothing in the lower right. My old flaw area.
Also, this gun shoots a little higher than point of aim. At least that I am used to. Shift the above four targets 3 inches left so that that group is more on the centerline....
But that has always been my goal. When I was low and right I wanted to be left more and low I could take care of.
I'm sure Sam will have a new thing to teach me to help with that. Whatcha bet it'll go to a firmer grip from the rather relaxed grip I have now... We knew this day was coming.
Another possible runner up, what I am doing with the trigger finger pad. See the .22 shots in this one. Right, but not high. Lollipop hold might be in my sight picture future, but play with bullet weights first.
There are two positions of this professionally tuned trigger when your finger is on it. It's going bang or it is about to go bag. It's hard to sneak up on the break and surprise myself. Travel is pretty short, too.
Did his simulator training last Saturday, too. Always fun, but this time I reflected how I have improved my shooting in the compared to a year and half ago. The Vision Quest continues.
Can't play with it for a week or two, so it is back to the .22. I am getting that one magazine tuned, the other magazines I ordered for it, and holsters made, so it is at the smith's til January, maybe.
Dunno how many rounds through it before I got it. At least 250. Sam tests guns and only considers them ready for sale if they can do 250 shots without a failure.
But we'll pretend for the purposes of the log book that I am at 150. This is one of the latest targets, all with similar results.
I circled in yellow one shot that tried to get away.
What do you see?
Upper right.
Heeling, milking, shooting flaw. But what do you NOT see?
Nothing in the lower right. My old flaw area.
Also, this gun shoots a little higher than point of aim. At least that I am used to. Shift the above four targets 3 inches left so that that group is more on the centerline....
But that has always been my goal. When I was low and right I wanted to be left more and low I could take care of.
I'm sure Sam will have a new thing to teach me to help with that. Whatcha bet it'll go to a firmer grip from the rather relaxed grip I have now... We knew this day was coming.
Another possible runner up, what I am doing with the trigger finger pad. See the .22 shots in this one. Right, but not high. Lollipop hold might be in my sight picture future, but play with bullet weights first.
There are two positions of this professionally tuned trigger when your finger is on it. It's going bang or it is about to go bag. It's hard to sneak up on the break and surprise myself. Travel is pretty short, too.
Did his simulator training last Saturday, too. Always fun, but this time I reflected how I have improved my shooting in the compared to a year and half ago. The Vision Quest continues.
Can't play with it for a week or two, so it is back to the .22. I am getting that one magazine tuned, the other magazines I ordered for it, and holsters made, so it is at the smith's til January, maybe.
Labels:
marksmanship,
range,
training
Sunday, December 11, 2016
Saturday, December 10, 2016
Have you noticed...
That pistols that USED to have on-board locking mechanisms have been quietly discontinuing them?
I think Glock had one in the grip but this was ages ago and they got rid of it ages ago and I'm not even sure of this and could be wrong and I'm not really talking about Glock.
But Springfield isn't using those mainspring housings on their 1911s...
And rumor has it S&W is thinking about dropping the zit...
Meh, I shouldn't get my hopes up. Revolver QC out ofConnecticut Massachusetts is not what it was.
I think Glock had one in the grip but this was ages ago and they got rid of it ages ago and I'm not even sure of this and could be wrong and I'm not really talking about Glock.
But Springfield isn't using those mainspring housings on their 1911s...
And rumor has it S&W is thinking about dropping the zit...
Meh, I shouldn't get my hopes up. Revolver QC out of
Friday, December 9, 2016
Firearm Features
When very N00bish, I dwelled on firearm features I wanted in a gun before purchase. Not from experience, obviously. This sight style and that grip panel and the thumb safety so and the guide rod thusly. And, of course, this model, but never THIS manufacturer... Only this caliber and no other, &c. All picked from research, mostly online, in an attempt to maximize my potential shooting success and, as important, minimize mistakes that I wouldn't be able to live with.
The selected features didn't have that much impact on my success, and I made mistakes anyhow.
Now? Now I am more of an advanced beginner, well on his way in his Vision Quest to be a beginning intermediate, or, dare I hope, more. Feature requirements and preferences, while they haven't fallen by the wayside, have become less important. All those things matter less. Just be a 'not bad' pistol and let's shoot it.
My prejudice against Glocks is slipping away. I didn't shoot them well, initially. I shoot them better now. If I won one in a raffle I might not sell it away immediately and put the proceed toward something else. 3 years ago I would. At the very least, no need to worry about the ambi safety like I would with a 1911. And I know how to DO safeties! Beavertail fitting? Oh, boy...
This is not say I don't like pouring over features and gun parts, as much as I always have. You can't build an AR from the ground up or a 1911 from a bare frame and not take some serious thrill out of a Brownells catalog and devil take the hindmost credit card balance. It's just less important. The gun becomes a tool. While I like one screwdriver variety over another, in the end it is still a screwdriver and the screw needs tightening. Most any decent screwdriver will do.
The selected features didn't have that much impact on my success, and I made mistakes anyhow.
Now? Now I am more of an advanced beginner, well on his way in his Vision Quest to be a beginning intermediate, or, dare I hope, more. Feature requirements and preferences, while they haven't fallen by the wayside, have become less important. All those things matter less. Just be a 'not bad' pistol and let's shoot it.
My prejudice against Glocks is slipping away. I didn't shoot them well, initially. I shoot them better now. If I won one in a raffle I might not sell it away immediately and put the proceed toward something else. 3 years ago I would. At the very least, no need to worry about the ambi safety like I would with a 1911. And I know how to DO safeties! Beavertail fitting? Oh, boy...
This is not say I don't like pouring over features and gun parts, as much as I always have. You can't build an AR from the ground up or a 1911 from a bare frame and not take some serious thrill out of a Brownells catalog and devil take the hindmost credit card balance. It's just less important. The gun becomes a tool. While I like one screwdriver variety over another, in the end it is still a screwdriver and the screw needs tightening. Most any decent screwdriver will do.
Thursday, December 8, 2016
Sorry bout that
Kinda in a slump. I have some posts half prepared but my give-a-dang is a little afluttered. I'll try to kick it into gear.
I hate this season. Trying to look at bright parts between the stressful parts.
I hate this season. Trying to look at bright parts between the stressful parts.
Off my lawn!
The 1980s were a simpler time pic.twitter.com/X4W1qIcYIB
— Bill Corbett (@BillCorbett) December 6, 2016
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Old Timers
Wednesday, December 7, 2016
Some range trips
Well, I had a magazine. Was there 9 rounds in it or fifteen? Let's see, click on the 10th shot, so... But wait! That was a dud round. Still, good shooting on that top left target. Initial 9 shots, very relaxed shooter, and all inside the 9 ring. The other targets are tres with paused between. None too shabby except for that one, upper right. Did a much better job focusing on the front sight. Compared to last round, this was a good outing. For me. All relative, of course. That was on Wednesday the 30th, and here is the score.
First round of Tre's: 16 + 27 + 28x+ 27 + 27 =125x
Second round: 22 + 24 + 27 + 26 + 25 = 124
Is my math off? Hmmm. That upper left, with 9 shots, scored 86 xx
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Then the following Sunday I went to ESS for playing with the 9mm I just got.
Oooo, lots of fun. The trigger. It breaks so fast and easy it feels like I am jerking it, in my mind. Just, it goes. Initial ranges were 3 yards, then 5, and making a golf ball sized hole. So after 30 rounds of .22, then 40 rounds of 9mm, I am tired and the range is now at 7 yards and I start to heel and over think it.
Note to self. Sam notices when you correct yourself. YOU should notice it too, and remember what you did to self-correct. Sam says it is always better when I do do so. Correct myself. Maybe if I remember better I will have to correct myself less.
All Federal white box practice ammo. 73 rounds. One stove pipe FTE on the 10th shot of the day, magazine 2. Magazine 2 also leaves the last round unstripped on lockback. Will correct it at the gun smith on Saturday. Maybe get my new mags for it then as well.
First round of Tre's: 16 + 27 + 28x+ 27 + 27 =125x
Second round: 22 + 24 + 27 + 26 + 25 = 124
Is my math off? Hmmm. That upper left, with 9 shots, scored 86 xx
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Then the following Sunday I went to ESS for playing with the 9mm I just got.
Oooo, lots of fun. The trigger. It breaks so fast and easy it feels like I am jerking it, in my mind. Just, it goes. Initial ranges were 3 yards, then 5, and making a golf ball sized hole. So after 30 rounds of .22, then 40 rounds of 9mm, I am tired and the range is now at 7 yards and I start to heel and over think it.
Note to self. Sam notices when you correct yourself. YOU should notice it too, and remember what you did to self-correct. Sam says it is always better when I do do so. Correct myself. Maybe if I remember better I will have to correct myself less.
All Federal white box practice ammo. 73 rounds. One stove pipe FTE on the 10th shot of the day, magazine 2. Magazine 2 also leaves the last round unstripped on lockback. Will correct it at the gun smith on Saturday. Maybe get my new mags for it then as well.
Labels:
.22LR,
9mm,
marksmanship,
range,
training
Tuesday, December 6, 2016
Selling
I picked the wrong time to do so. Ah well, better something than nothing.
I am unloading a Series 80 Combat Commander I have no use for. Because of gunsmithing school I am flush with custom 1911s. Plus a Gen 1 Sig 229 with that DAK trigger, in .40. I'll be lucky to get a nibble on that. All in an effort to take the sting out of buying this one.
One thing I am not doing is selling a problematic gun to make it someone else's problem. Nothing wrong with either. But what if I had a gun that just wouldn't run for me, and I didn't want it, and needed money, and buyer's should beware... Would I sell that? I dunno if my conscience would let me. I certainly wouldn't hide the problem and price it accordingly.
And I am realistic on pricing for these sound guns. I'm not the guy that wants $1200 for his used Kimber that someone can still get for 8 bills or less. New. No, it is probably not a collectors item, but good luck with $1200.
I am unloading a Series 80 Combat Commander I have no use for. Because of gunsmithing school I am flush with custom 1911s. Plus a Gen 1 Sig 229 with that DAK trigger, in .40. I'll be lucky to get a nibble on that. All in an effort to take the sting out of buying this one.
One thing I am not doing is selling a problematic gun to make it someone else's problem. Nothing wrong with either. But what if I had a gun that just wouldn't run for me, and I didn't want it, and needed money, and buyer's should beware... Would I sell that? I dunno if my conscience would let me. I certainly wouldn't hide the problem and price it accordingly.
And I am realistic on pricing for these sound guns. I'm not the guy that wants $1200 for his used Kimber that someone can still get for 8 bills or less. New. No, it is probably not a collectors item, but good luck with $1200.
Monday, December 5, 2016
Gun Violence PSA
Did you see the gorilla?
But is that the guy that shoots up the school, or just the story that was put out after Columbine about bullied loners interested in goth and in their own 2-man 'trenchcoat' mafia? I guess it is hard to depict Severe Mental Illness in a 3 minute video.
But is that the guy that shoots up the school, or just the story that was put out after Columbine about bullied loners interested in goth and in their own 2-man 'trenchcoat' mafia? I guess it is hard to depict Severe Mental Illness in a 3 minute video.
Sunday, December 4, 2016
Indy!
If The Walking Dead can cause a run on Colt Python revolvers...
Any of you old gunnie remember 1981? Was there a run a breaktop six shooters because of Indiana Jones?
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Old Timers
Saturday, December 3, 2016
Die Hard is NOT a Christmas Movie
It's a heist film plus cop buddy picture. When regular gas cost 6 bits a gallon.
But Dune, on the other hand, THAT is a Christmas movie.
Hear me out.
A 'relative' brings a gift 'box' with a surprise gift inside.
There is a Jolly Fat Man
A religious savior in a desert land
Methodical slaying of hordes of young males, hoping to get that savior caught up in the net
Wise men interested in the well being of that young savior.
Patrick Stewart is in the movie, and he also played Ebeneezer Scrooge.
A spice that smells a bit of cinnamon plays an important role, and you know they put that stuff in lattes and pies... everything.
It all FITS! Christmas movie!
But Dune, on the other hand, THAT is a Christmas movie.
Hear me out.
A 'relative' brings a gift 'box' with a surprise gift inside.
There is a Jolly Fat Man
A religious savior in a desert land
Methodical slaying of hordes of young males, hoping to get that savior caught up in the net
Wise men interested in the well being of that young savior.
Patrick Stewart is in the movie, and he also played Ebeneezer Scrooge.
A spice that smells a bit of cinnamon plays an important role, and you know they put that stuff in lattes and pies... everything.
It all FITS! Christmas movie!
Friday, December 2, 2016
Y'all need to relax about Trump
What he says?
What 'they' said he said?
Doesn't matter. Relax about it. He's been talking full Trump style for a coupla years. He's not drunk. He's not a 8th level Dan Troll-grandmaster doing Troll-kata on purpose, either. I bet it's instinctual, and probably not planned.
But it's just talk. Or lies about just talk. And it doesn't matter.
Watch what he does. Sure the communication is important. But, it's the pledge and the turn in magic. The prestige is what truly matters, tho.
Hypothetical. SCOTUS appointment. "I'm not beholden to that list of judges I told you about last summer" ~screams!~ "My sister would make a great SCOTUS. Or maybe Ivanka..." ~SCREAMS!~ "I nominate Ted Cruz." ~SCRE-wait...~
You should relax.
In this totally realistic Trump scenario in a couple months... He's messed with you and me. He's messed with the #NeverTrumps a bunch more. He's REALLY messed with the MSM and Democrats (repeating myself). He's made an ally and moved an enemy simultaneously. Cruz is unconventional but would be an ok SCOTUS. I bet Cruz would enjoy that job a lot. And a lot more than Senator. He might even have an easier time in the confirmation because 'Senator.' Abbot then elevates another to be GOP Senator in Texas. While everyone chews on the new possibility of a Senator Rick Perry, Trump is moving on to the next thing and the world scrambles to keep up with the fast pace.
The stuff he talked about didn't matter. What he did... sorta works. In the above.
What 'they' said he said?
Doesn't matter. Relax about it. He's been talking full Trump style for a coupla years. He's not drunk. He's not a 8th level Dan Troll-grandmaster doing Troll-kata on purpose, either. I bet it's instinctual, and probably not planned.
But it's just talk. Or lies about just talk. And it doesn't matter.
Watch what he does. Sure the communication is important. But, it's the pledge and the turn in magic. The prestige is what truly matters, tho.
Hypothetical. SCOTUS appointment. "I'm not beholden to that list of judges I told you about last summer" ~screams!~ "My sister would make a great SCOTUS. Or maybe Ivanka..." ~SCREAMS!~ "I nominate Ted Cruz." ~SCRE-wait...~
You should relax.
In this totally realistic Trump scenario in a couple months... He's messed with you and me. He's messed with the #NeverTrumps a bunch more. He's REALLY messed with the MSM and Democrats (repeating myself). He's made an ally and moved an enemy simultaneously. Cruz is unconventional but would be an ok SCOTUS. I bet Cruz would enjoy that job a lot. And a lot more than Senator. He might even have an easier time in the confirmation because 'Senator.' Abbot then elevates another to be GOP Senator in Texas. While everyone chews on the new possibility of a Senator Rick Perry, Trump is moving on to the next thing and the world scrambles to keep up with the fast pace.
The stuff he talked about didn't matter. What he did... sorta works. In the above.
Thursday, December 1, 2016
Panic at the Kitchen Table
So I was trying to remove a stuck grip screw escutcheon on a 1911. And I munged up the slot something fierce. As one does when one pretend to know a little bit about gunsmithing. I mean gunbutchery.
Oh no! What do? Throw the frame away and buy another.
Now hold on! Maybe there are options. Don't abandon hope. You still have a chance this will come out alright with no damage to anything more expensive than a sawbuck.
With a stuck screw sometimes tightening it a fraction of a turn will break the grip and make it easier to back out. Or soak it in penetrating oil to loosen the threads. Or... and be careful with this... blow torch. Apply heat. The expansion and contraction breaks the hold and also breaks down any Loctite that might be in there. I said to be careful not because I am worried you will hurt yourself. Burned skin heals. I am more worried about messing with the temper of the metal. Stainless steel is a bit more forgivable than carbon steel. Try not to get the metal to turn straw or blue.
But these hints are less helpful when you have borked up the screw slot.
This was my plan.
First I would put the grip screw back in the cleaned hole with red loctite on the threads of it. Tighten that down tight to get a good bond. Then I'd back out that screw and hope it takes the escutcheon with it. Sacrifice both. Plan B was to put a screw in part way from the proper side, and put another screw with a hex hole on the inside of the magwell. Both screws touching tip to tip. Then use an Allen wrench from the opposite whole to get the thing out of there.
Plan A worked. But I wish I had tried B first. That solution came to me too late, and if it had been attempted and had worked it would feel more elegant, somehow, now.
If it had failed and stripped the threads in the frame, all is still not lost. You can add metal to the hole with a welder and re-tap the threads. But that skill is a bit beyond me right now.
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So, itemized, the methods for removing a stubborn escutcheon that I thought of, in order to escalation to prevent harm are:
I don't like the penetrating oil, normally. But I am impatient.
Oh no! What do? Throw the frame away and buy another.
Now hold on! Maybe there are options. Don't abandon hope. You still have a chance this will come out alright with no damage to anything more expensive than a sawbuck.
With a stuck screw sometimes tightening it a fraction of a turn will break the grip and make it easier to back out. Or soak it in penetrating oil to loosen the threads. Or... and be careful with this... blow torch. Apply heat. The expansion and contraction breaks the hold and also breaks down any Loctite that might be in there. I said to be careful not because I am worried you will hurt yourself. Burned skin heals. I am more worried about messing with the temper of the metal. Stainless steel is a bit more forgivable than carbon steel. Try not to get the metal to turn straw or blue.
But these hints are less helpful when you have borked up the screw slot.
This was my plan.
First I would put the grip screw back in the cleaned hole with red loctite on the threads of it. Tighten that down tight to get a good bond. Then I'd back out that screw and hope it takes the escutcheon with it. Sacrifice both. Plan B was to put a screw in part way from the proper side, and put another screw with a hex hole on the inside of the magwell. Both screws touching tip to tip. Then use an Allen wrench from the opposite whole to get the thing out of there.
Plan A worked. But I wish I had tried B first. That solution came to me too late, and if it had been attempted and had worked it would feel more elegant, somehow, now.
If it had failed and stripped the threads in the frame, all is still not lost. You can add metal to the hole with a welder and re-tap the threads. But that skill is a bit beyond me right now.
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So, itemized, the methods for removing a stubborn escutcheon that I thought of, in order to escalation to prevent harm are:
- tap it a few times with a non marring item (plastic screwdiver handle)
- tighten a bit first before backing off
- a little heat with a torch
- soak it in penetrating oil for a week with occasional taps
- remove all penetrating oil and apply a little MORE heat
- two screws tip to tip, then spin clockwise from the 'bottom' end
- red loctite on a sacrifical screw seated well inside the escutcheon, back out in 24 hours
- spin it with vise grips
- drill our the escutcheon with plans to perhaps add metal to the hole with a welder and retapping
I don't like the penetrating oil, normally. But I am impatient.
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