Monday, March 28, 2011

SA DA

ANd why of why oh why can I shoot a snubbie with a shortened grip and a standard revolver double action trigger pull better than a sweet 1911 SA trigger?  It remains a mystery. 

And when I do use a SA trigger on a revolver it is better than all three.

I think something in my head says that a 1911 isn't a SA, I think.  What do I mean?  I default to pulling the trigger.  PULLing the trigger.  Like I mean business.  If I was defending myself I'd ~pull~ the trigger.  I get better shots when I check myself and sorta ~feather~ the trigger on the trigger squeeze.  It's slower, more deliberate, and totally not what I'd be able to pull off right now in a stressful situation.

Now I PULL that trigger with a DAO revolver.  But that's sorta how you do it, is my understanding.  Get your sight picture and smoothly squeeze straight back. 

And with a SA revolver trigger squeeze I approach THAT more slowly than with a 1911 from the get go.  I know that's just a hair away from going off, so I am being more careful.

This all STILL doesn't explain what happens when I shift gears and MAKE myself shoot the 1911 like a SA revolver.

Range report later to illustrate this...

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Post a side-by-side pic of all the sights pictures. Could it be that you have a sight pref?

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Bubblehead Les. said...

Just as Conan had to deal with the Riddle of Steel, you are now experiencing the Riddle of the 1911. Tain't a DAO, isn't a DA/SA like a Beretta, doesn't feel like a Glock, even if your trigger gauge swears they're both 5 lbs, it is its own separate feel. That's part of the reason Smith + Wesson tried to replicate the trigger pull of their Revolvers when they created their 3rd. Gen Pistols in DAO 20+ years ago. Uniformity was the goal at the time. Smith wanted Cops who went to Semis to try and have the same pull as their revolvers when their Dept. made the transition. But 1911's are 1911's. Will talk later.

Clint said...

Can you post a vid of you dry firing an example of all three modes?

New Jovian Thunderbolt said...

That may be a problem with the video, Clint. I don't have an appropriate camera to start. And my dry fire, I notice, looks much better than my live fire.

But this should call for an intensive personal, serious, training session where I put thousands of 'rounds' down living room in dry firing practice. Get some serious muscle memory going without worry of recoil.

Anonymous said...

Might have something to do with "barrel fixed to frame" vs "barrel rattles around in the guts of a machine, never quite coming back to the same exact place twice in a row."

How well do you shoot the H&K P7 or other fixed-barrel auto?

Oh, and "hippies suck dead pigs."

Cheers, Medium Sized Jake

New Jovian Thunderbolt said...

Medium Sized Jake? I new a man named "No'-As-Big-As-Medium-Sized-Jock-But-Bigger-than-Wee-Jock Jock" once...

Bubblehead Les. said...

Wheh! What a day! Anyway, here's my theory. Just treat each pistol each time you take it out as a brand new experience, and let it tell you where it wants to shoot. Nice comfortable grip, sights are lined up, slowly press the trigger, BANG! Put it down, see if its on target, adjust sights after awhile if it keeps hitting the same spot, but enjoy it! Think of it as a Bullseye Match for the Beer Bill, not an UberFast Zombie Mowing Operation.

Anonymous said...

Wow. I bet introductions got a little hilarious after a few pints of Guiness.

"Medium Sized Jake" = somewhat smaller than "Big Jake".

But I think I like "Jock"'s handle better. Too bad it's already taken.

Cheers, MSJ