Wednesday, October 5, 2016

Constitution Carry

Permitless Carry. 

I am of two minds.  I am a bit of an individual rights absolutist.  You should be able to carry from the word jump. 

But I also like equipment and training requirements.  $1000 for a gun and holster and ammo.  $1000 worth of decent training.  Just spitballing it.  And more training and practice after that.  Not just the $200 training class that some places make you do before issuing a CCW. 

But I am very much against the government mandating that requirement.  In my perfect world you require yourself to invest in that.   No one tells you to.  Like I said yesterday.

My perfect world and the world we live in are two different things.   A bit of a contradiction.

I err on the side of zero regulation and Vermont style carry.  And I don't lose any sleep over some jurisdictions with reasonable extra shall-issue requirements.  NONE of those requirements in any state has people taking $1000 worth of training with $400 worth of ammo (assuming $500 gun and $100 holster).  Not to my knowledge. 

I need to take more and varied training classes.  Like Masaad's, for one. 

(And that $1000 is a starting point.  But I like learning new things)


Comrade Misfit said...

CCW class in this neck of the woods runs ~$100, with guns and ammo provided. (Because the instructors got tired of having to hold up the class and assist someone with their $250 Jammomatic.)

But seriously, very few people in this area are going to cough up $1,000 for a carry piece. And fewer will pay that much for courses. Mortgages, car payments, insurance, kids, and so on. They might go out to a friend's farm and shoot a box of Wally-World ball into the side of a creek's ravine once or twice a year.

You can't even get people to sign up for first-aid courses, which they arguably might have more of a need to use those skills.

New Jovian Thunderbolt said...

It's not $1000 for a carry piece. It's the gun, the holster, and the first pile of ammo, but yes, I get your point.

Jon said...

So, there's no reason why gun stores couldn't require, and even possibly fund, gun safety and marksmanship classes before they sold you a gun. Not government interference with 2A rights. Maybe it would hurt business, or maybe the safety-minded would support such a policy and it would be a net gain. I dunno.

Comrade Misfit said...


Right. The gun store in the next town wouldn't do that and the gun store which required proof of a safety class would soon have a "For Rent" sign in the window.

Marty said...

I believe gun safety training should return to elementary schools. Like it was when I was a kid.